What is AACFI?
American Association of Certified Firearms Instructors. Originally organized in Minnesota as a political proponent for MPPA (MN Personal Protection Act) AACFI Later Developed into a Training curriculum for Concealed Carry Training based on requirements built into the MN legislation.
Would this training be valid if Wisconsin passed the Personal Protection Act?
There is no way that one can predict the future. As the most recent WPPA was written, the DOJ would have set the standards. Until those standards are/were established, we can make no promises other than the following.
What if there are requirements beyond the current CCW Training Curriculum?
BDJ is committed to the highest standards possible. If, in Wisconsin Legislation, WPPA requirements are changed, BDJ will update its past students at minimum cost.
Why should I get the CCW Permit Training now?
There are 3 reasons:
- Because you can use it Now , to obtain a Florida Concealed Carry Permit, which is currently valid in 29 States.
- Because you will be prepared, when WI does pass the WPPA, as BDJ Alumni you will have first priority to obtain needed updates at minimum cost.
- If, however, WI Requires further requirements to qualify for the WI Carry Permit, you will be at the head of the list to obtain update training as needed, at minimum cost, while having the ability to obtain Carry Permits for out state travel immediately.
Why should I spend the money, and time, to obtain a FL or MN Carry Permit?
- It will quite likely to take some amount of time before the WI Permit is recognized on other states, reciprocal agreements will require time to implement. At this point there is no guarantee that a WI Permit will be as widely accepted as the FL Permit within a reasonable amount of time.
- Having a FL or MN permit will allow a greater latitude of personal defense choices in out state travel.
How long does this CCW Training Class take?
The current CCW Permit curriculum calls for 5.5-6 Hours of Classroom work, followed then by a Range Qualification Course.
How much does the CCW Training Class Cost?
BDJ rates are, and will remain, competitive. Currently, the CCW Class price has been reduced from $150, to $100. We are currently requesting that the difference be donated to the Wisconsin Concealed Carry Movement.
Any donations to the WCCM are voluntary. All monies collected at the classroom for this purpose are sent directly to the WCCM.
What is the Course objective?
To fully understand the implications of carrying a firearm. This includes the Legal aspects, the Practical aspects, a shooting exercise,
and a healthy dose of Reality, Fear, and Safety
Should I get a permit?
We don't know. We do know that in order to be eligible to receive one, you have to meet certain criteria. If you meet those criteria, it's up to you —With other states, and with the passage of the PPA, you will have a choice.
What type of classes does BDJ do at this time?
BDJ does a variety of classes, Ranging from NRA Basic Pistol & Personal Defense to AACFI's Permit to Carry Class.
Our most popular class, at the moment, is the AACFI Permit to Carry Class, based on Minnesota requirements.
What is the origin of this Permit to Carry class: What is it's legal basis of qualification.
This class was developed by the American Association of Certified Firearms Instructors when Minnesota passed their Personal Protection Act in 2003. The Organization, Curriculum, and the Instructors must Certified to meet Minnesota requirements. As such, both the Class and the Instructors also meet the Florida requirements to obtain a Carry permit. This class was later certified, with an addendum, to qualify one to obtain the Utah permit as well.
How long is the class?
The Classroom portion for the MN/FL class is about five and a half to six hours, plus the range portion. That will vary depending on the number of students attending the class.
The Utah portion is an additional one and one half hours.
It is essentially a one day class.
Is this class for Wisconsin Residents only??
Absolutely not!! BDJ has alumni from Wisconsin , Minnesota , Illinois , and even as far away as Georgia .
What are the necessary requirements to obtain a Permit to Carry?
Good question. These are “Shall Issue” states. This means that when the Requirements are met, the permit will be issued.
The first and most important requirement is that one may not be a Felon, or have a criminal or mental history.
Beyond that, State requirements for Training must be met, usually by certified organizations and Instructors.
Where do you hold the Permit to Carry Classes?
In this area, the majority of our classes have been held at the Holmen Rod & Gun Club, just north of Holmen. We can, and have, held classes in private homes and facilities, as needed, to facilitate the needs of individuals and groups.
Who are the Instructors for these classes and what are their qualifications and experience levels?
The Instructors for BDJ are Bill and Deb Schmitz. Both are AACFI Senior Instructors; NRA Instructors for several Disciplines; NRA Range Safety Officers; NRA Life members; Both are also Officers in the Wisconsin Dept of Corrections and have a combined Corrections experience of over 38 years.
BDJ has an Alumnus of over 500 Good People who have been qualified to obtain Carry Permits through our classes.
What is it that the students are required to do?
The first and foremost requirement is to arrive with a Good and Positive Attitude. The class is an ongoing discussion of an Individual's Rights, Responsibilities, the Safety requirements, and Pitfalls of carrying a firearm.
We then will do a range exercise to finish the course, which they must pass.
An individual may bring their own firearm to the class, or use one of ours if they'd like.
Will this class teach someone how to shoot a pistol?
No, not in and of it self. The basic premise of the class is the one already has some experience with a handgun. It is not a basic pistol class. We do cover basics of defensive shooting and we do stress safety techniques with handguns. That is not to say that one has to be an expert to take the class. We have the experience and knowledge to bring someone up to speed, quickly, to meet the course requirements.
What states offer Non-Resident Carry Permits available to us as Wisconsin Residents?
At this time we can qualify one to apply for and obtain CCW Permits from Minnesota , Florida , Utah , and New Hampshire .
All information required to obtain these permits is given at the class
Once one has obtained a Florida , Minnesota or Utah Carry Permit, what states would they be valid in?
That can vary depending on which permit(s) you have obtained, and whether or not your permit is a resident or non resident permit. We do have as complete and up to date list on our website at BDJ dash LTD.com.
Are any of these permits good in Wisconsin ?
Unfortunately, at this time, no, they are not.
While Wisconsin itself does not forbid open carry, it can be somewhat problematic.
There is no provision, nor are there permits available, for Concealed carry in Wisconsin .
If Wisconsin were to pass a Permit to Carry law, in the future, would these permits then be valid in WI?
As there is no current Legislation, that would be impossible to say at this time,
However, as the previous legislation was written, all permits would be valid, except for Wisconsin residents. So in that scenario the answer, for a Wisconsin resident, holding an out state Non-Resident Permit, would have been no.
Would this training, in and of itself, suffice to qualify one to obtain a WI permit, should a Carry Law be passed?
Again, as there is no current CCW legislation, it is impossible to say at this time.
I would look twice at anyone making that claim, as the standards have not yet been set.
Add to that, some states have a time limit between the training and the application for a permit, such as six months or a year.
That alone could serve to invalidate any previous training. There are some states that have no such time limit.
So who can say what a Wisconsin version might be.
Why then, would someone consider this training now, if they cannot use it in WI.
Why indeed…..Good question. If you, or you and your family travel, then this can have an immediate impact for you and your family's safety. Most of us feel that we are not at risk at home and that may, or may not be, be justified.
But when one is out and about the risk levels do increase.
Please, keep in mind, if you would, that;
one: violence is, much of the time, completely random;
and two: bad things can, and do, happen to good people.
No one else is responsible for your continued health safety, and by virtue of just being there, YOU ARE your own First Responder.
Having a permit does not require one to carry a firearm. It does, however, allow one the option to do so should they feel it appropriate. Doing so can greatly expand your options in a deteriorating or confrontational situation.
Would there be any advantages to taking this training now, even if I didn't want to get a permit?
Yes, there are several. It will build on your knowledge base of the laws of your own and neighboring states. You will leave this class with the knowledge on where to find other state's laws regarding self defense. If you are unsure of what Concealed carry is really about, this class can fill in the blanks on the philosophy, rights, responsibilities, and laws regarding CCW.
Even if you do not own a firearm, this class can expand your knowledge of the basic issue and well as what one might expect of those who do obtain Permits to Carry.
If someone did not want to take the class in a public forum, do you offer private classes?
As a matter of fact, yes we do. We are more than happy to accommodate an individual's wish for privacy or convenience by doing classes in a setting that is not open to the public.
The classroom portion can be done easily and safely in a private residence, or conference room.
The range portion will need, of course, to be done in an area that is appropriate to live fire scenarios.